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Report - ISO SC5, Meteorology meeting, Helsinki, Finland, 2
September 2010
The ISO SC5 meeting meeting, following the CIMO-TECO in
Helsinki, was held in room E122 of the Wanha Satama convention center,
starting at 9:00 on Thursday 2 September 2010. At the invitation
of the chairperson of SC5, Rodica Nitu, the HMEI Executive
Secretary Bruce Sumner attended the meeting. Mr Sumner made the
following report for HMEI members.
Opening of Meeting of
ISO SC5
9.00am Thursday 2 September 2010
Participants
There were 23 people in attendance, including Paul Franscioli,
SC5 Secretary, Rodica Nitu, SC-5 chairperson, Ben Dieterink,
HMEI Chairman, Fred Branski, CBS President, Bill Burnett, Jitze
van der Meulen, Michel Leroy, Dr Emanuele Vuerich, and several
others.
Items of Interest
from the meeting
1. ISO and WMO recently signed an agreement in Los Vegas, that
will allow WMO guidelines to be fast-tracked to ISO standards.
2. The status of the current ‘Visual Range Lidar’ standard being
worked on by Working Group 6 was reported to the group. The
draft standard has been issued for comment directly at the
enquiry stage (DIS). This is called a ballot, and it is expected
to close on 23 January 2011. About two months after that it will
be finalized and will be published as a new standard. The work
of three people in particular were mentioned as being
instrumental in getting this standard done, Christof Murkel, the
chairman from DWD, and Laurent Sauvage from Leosphere and Holger
Willie from Jenoptik.
3. The first standard to be jointly developed by ISO and WMO is
the siting classification, developed primarily by Michel Leroy
as a CIMO project. It was approved by CIMO in at CIMO-XV in
September 2010, and now will be promoted to an ISO standard
through the normal ISO procedures. But it will be submitted at
the DIS level (enquiry stage), the third step in the ISO
procedures, and thus jumps several years of preliminary work
within the ISO formalities. It will first have 5 months of
review at the DIS level, and it can then be promoted to the
publication level.
4. To work on the siting classification with ISO it will be
necessary to establish a new working group (WG) within SC5.
People to sit on this WG were found from the people present at
this meeting, and at least six of those attending expressed
their wish to be on this WG when it is established.
5. The need to form standardized vocabulary within the
meteorology Study Group (SC5) was discussed. This could take the
form of a new working group, and would greatly facilitate future
work within SC5.
6. To facilitate work on standards it was mentioned that a
project can often be broken into smaller components, and each of
these developed as an independent standard. This would help some
large projects from eventually failing. As people working as a
small group on a specific small standard have a greater chance
of success that a large group working on a complicated standard.
7. The need to address CIN standards (a European group which
also has liaison status with WMO) and for these to be made into
ISO standards, was discussed. It was mentioned that only one
European standard on a particular issue can exit, either an ISO
standard or a CIN standard, but not both. The ISO SC5
secretariat will investigate this issue.
8. As a final note, the participation of industry experts on ISO
Working Groups, promoted through HMEI, was noted as being of
fundamental importance, and often is essential for a standard to
be brought through to publication. In this regard, HMEI’s
liaison status with ISO is crucial for the development of future
meteorological and hydrological standards.
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